I would like to state that it is important to have a free media. But the media should not be able to manipulate and distort information to their own gain. I have sensed that the BBC in the United Kingdom have done this.
Why is a free media important? Diversity! Inovation! More ideas and better ethics.
So Dimitri Medvedev should allow more debate into having a free media. But there must be control over the media to the point where privacy is not infringed. In PMQ's yesterday, the British parliament's Prime Minister's question time, an MP stood up and said that someone telephoned him. The whole house went into rapturous laughter and jeering. Why? Because the sense was that he did not physically telephone the person but in fact had just sensed a thought or a sense. Stupid really. We need a balance between reality and the metaphysical realm. I have discerned that there is a lot of ambiguity over the issue of pain and death. To the point where people disrespect pain or death because they have sensed that there is no pain or death. Saying that people do not die. They should be ashamed of themselves. So my point is, that the media should have freedom, but only along the lines of reality. Which involves primarily the physical world. Kind regards Anton
Dear All_Seeing_Eye, I agree with you. The president of USA is NOT elected by the people. He is elected after much brain-washing by the TV and media owned by Zionists. The campaigns are sponsored by companies and he who can spend more money to brain-wash the people is finally elected. There are only two parties one right and one far-right. So the people are not asked to select between different political ideals but between things only God knows what... That 's why advertisement, public relations and brainwashing work so well in USA. If differences was in political ideals then advertisement, public relations and brainwashing would not work. There is no way to parsuade a liberal to vote the ... communist party, even if you show him some ... nude girls of komsomol waving soviet flags! (I krasnomu znameni slavnoi otchizni, mi budem svegda bezevyetno verni). The communists wouldn't do such a thing of course... It would be a great show anyway. In USA, stupid Americans will vote Obama just because his face is everywhere, even on ... condoms! Marzipan6 continues his/her tradition to draw satisfaction from saying bad things about Russia. Of course "by no means is he/she a fan or a defender of all things American". USA fought against Nazis as well as Russia. Of course "democracies grow, develop and succeed" so much (like the Baltics or the "orange-rebel" Ukraine) that they have been bankrupted and people there are eating from the trash! Like "mushrooms in the dark and fed you-know-what". And of course "poor" Russia "lurches from one self-reinvention to another" as a superpower. So, as impossible as it seems, I have managed to ... "agree" with Marzipan6!!! - Ergatis.
Yes, there is a difference between the US and Russian presidential elections.
I don't recall Putin grooming his progeny or wife for the presidency. I guess Russia is just crazy, for not letting the presidency become a plaything for a handful of big businesses and family bloodlines.
By no means am I a fan or a defender of all things American. But I do note the startling contrast between the US and Russian presidential elections.
In America, there is a desperate, entirely genuine and very public contest for who will even be the candidates. In Russia the only candidate who mattered was appointed by a regal nod of the Presidential head, and everyone knew who will win the election before even the first vote was cast.
In democratic countries, the abilities and talents of the population are genuinely empowered to be applied to the service of the country in leadership roles. In Russia, they are not. This is why democracies grow, develop and succeed, and why Russia does not, but lurches from one self-reinvention to another.
Norman is right that debates in the current election campaign are of questionable value and is right to head up the feebleness of the 3 candidates who have anything to gain by debate: One represents the past, one is a caricature and one is a stooge candidate put in place to give the preceedings some harmless, eccentric "interest". The fact is that the authorities saw to it long ago by a series of means that no one with anything meaningful to say in the way of criticism of the current regime would have access to the airtime allotted to presidential candidates. A truly deplorable state of affairs.
Medvedev clearly fears being put in the same spotlight as Zyuganov and to a much lesser extent Bogdonov. Medvedev is seen as Putin's successor and therefore the right man for the job. The people think Putin is infallible and his support of Medvedev transfers their support for Putin to Medvedev. If Medvedev is seen as an equal to Zyuganov in a debate then his arguments will fail. The Putin government has no real plan for Russia and are just sitting on oil revenue. A debate on policy between Medvedev and Zyuganov would be disastrous for Medvedev.
Simply put: Zyugannov is just romanticising the old failed policies of the USSR. Zhironovsky is still getting into fights. The other candidate is a 4% candidate. Mr. Medvedev is out there doing things and giving his vision of Russia's possible future! As much as I love debates, I question whether they would work in Russia's election.
Most of what you said are not based on facts and figures. What you are saying just some abstract predictions.
No it is not. See – The latest ‘CIA’ year Book! And check out the figures. Probably the figures are a bit understated for Russia (7th), but with latest figures by ROSSTAT, it’s almost certainly 6th!
If you read my post and can refute even a single fact or figure than we can talk further. Also, you are too focused on economy as a function of GDP. This is a very failing approach and very poor indicator indeed.
The GDP is the starting point in any policy. If you don’t have the money, no matter how well intentioned you are, no money, no implementation. PLAIN and SIMPLE.
Drugs for cardiovascular, diabetes, vaccines and medicines for infectious diseases. None. Its one of the worst human tragedies unfolding in any part of the world today except Sub-Saharan Africa.
Agree, the Russian Health care system is not up to the levels required or even desired. That’s the reason for the NATIONAL PROJECTS. Something better than nothing.
Why is Medvedev not willing to discuss these problems? Who said that? But you think these will be discussed? No the opposition, if there is one, will discuss Politskaya, Human Rights etc etc.
Why were the social projects not launched in 2001 instead of 2005? Why is so less money, less than 0.9% of GDP being invested in social projects (housing education, health, pensions etc)? – Please check out your figures and state sources. In any case, the US medical sector is abdominal, though that’s no excuse…
The problem of Inflation is not a monetary problem in Russia; it is a deep production deficit that is hemorrhaging the economy. Due to shoddy infrastructure and ill-conceived programs to boost small businesses and a deeply unjust tax system Russia continues to be in a depressed state forever. – Please compare today with 1998 and you’ll get the idea.
Medvedev-Kudrin nexus are deliberately accelerating the decay and death of Russia through their policies.- Maybe you can suggest someone BETTER?
Sanjay, I’m not for one minute defending Medvedev’s refusal to debate NOR SUGGESTING that everything is hunky-Dory in RF. My contention is that, UNLIKE many other Emerging Economies, RF has had to face many challenges that are unique. Among them – The dependence on BLOOD-SUCKING neighbors for transit routes, an almost unworkable industrial base inherited from 70 years of “ Misguided” Socialism, the lethargy of the post0soviet era, bad decisions on part of many ‘west dependent’ advisors etc etc. What I’m saying is that, Russia today is a VASTLY UNDERPERFORMING COUNTRY considering its potential, and Putin has built a momentum, that is more or less Ok considering the internal and external pressures him and Russia faces.
Unless and until there is viable opposition, laden with constructive insights and alternative solutions to these problems, a debate for a debate’s sake MAY NOT get any credible results, other than WILD accusations and denials.
In any case, one who doesn’t engage – Does he loses or wins?? AND I’M TALKING IN GENERAL TERMS.
My prediction is that most of these so called Siloviki will either be purged or will retire with their billions stashed in anglo-american banks.
The ones who are purged will get nothing. The ones who retire will get billions. The ones who are still in power will eventually get mega-billions.
The fourth group,the tiny monority, the patriots, will go down fighting like Stolypin, or if some miracle happens, they will triumph aginst the first three groups.
But so far it looks like the short-term opportunists and long term opportunists will win and a section of the patriots will be purged.
Most of what you said are not based on facts and figures. What you are saying just some abstract predictions.
If you read my post and can refute even a single fact or figure than we can talk further. Also, you are too focused on economy as a function of GDP. This is a very failing approach and very poor indicator indeed.
What you failed to mention was that life expectency of males in Russia is an abominable 56 years, similar to many subsaharan countries.
Women don't fare too well either.
Human Development Index (HDI) which is a composite measure of prosperity, education and life expectency is a much more accurate indicator.
Russia ranks a poor 65th in HDI which is really trajic and a direct effect of the neoliberal policies of Medvedev-Kudrin Nexus.
Most of the GDP growth in Russia is a result of extremely imbalanced export oriented energy, metals and timber sector.
Russia has not ivested in its people and its fixed-infrastructure. Schools, Hospitals, Transport Systems, housing.
Russia a country of 140 million people where millions are dying from cancer and infectious diseases has only, here is the bombshell,
only 70 machines for cancer radiotherapy whereas US has 3000. Why couldnt they buy a thousand machines from that stabilization fund to immediately address the equipment shortage for cancer patients in Russia is beoynd belief.
The pharmaceutical sector in Russia is so underdeveloped that its astonishing how carelessly people talk about Russia as a trillion dollar economy.
Forget about cutting edge Biotech, Russia does not even have a functional generic drugs market. Can you name even a single billion dollar pharmaceutical firm developing producing and distributing affordable generic drugs in Russia.
Drugs for cardiovascular, diabetes, vaccines and medicines for infectious diseases. None. Its one of the worst human trajedies unfolding in any part of the world today except Subsaharan Africa.
Why is Medvedev not willing to dicuss these problems?
Why were the social projects not launched in 2001 instead of 2005. Why is so less money, less than 0.9% of GDP being invested in social projects (housing education, health, pensions etc).
The problem of Inflation is not a monetary problem in Russia, it is a deep production deficit that is haemorrhaging the economy. Due to shoddy infrastructure and ill-concieved programs to boost small buisnesses and a deeply unjest tax system Russia continues to be in a depressed state forever.
Medvedev-Kudrin nexus are deliberately accelerating the decay and death of RUssia through their policies.
I don't think the problem is just Putin. He doesn't run Russia on his own. It would be interesting to know what the Ivanovs, the Lavrovs and the other "siloviki" make of Medvedev's "appointment". They expended a lot of, shall we say hard effort, to get where they are today, and Mr Medvedev will have to tread very carefully not to upset them. Conspiracy theorists have Mr Medvedev meeting an unfortunate accident and being replaced should the need arise by Mr Putin (who I believe is able to stand again after a break), or at the very least being set up as expendable fall guy to be replaced, discredited, by one of the FSB "old boys" in due course. I honestly don't believe any of that, but the fact is United Russia is now starting to dominate life - not just political life - in Russia the way the old Soviet Communist party used to.
I would never vote for a candidate who disrespects and patronises – or fears – his would-be constituents, myself included, enough to where he does not even deign to show his face in a debate in an election campaign. Such a candidate either considers the public to be something akin to mushrooms (ie, keep them in the dark, and feed them you-know-what), or he is scared of them and thinks that if he actually reveals his real self to them, they will reject him. Yet surprisingly enough, Russians apparently would, and will, vote for precisely such a candidate.
In my view this is because Russians are not used to thinking of themselves as the masters of their country. They do not look at their government as being their servants, to rule on their behalf and in their interests, do not require their government officials to be answerable to them and are not in the habit of dismissing governments and officials who are incompetent, self-seeking or corrupt. Instead, Russians are habitually in love with some heroic myth. In tsarist times used to be “Holy Russia”, in Soviet times it was the messianic nonsense of Marxist gobbledegook, and in post-Soviet times it is Russian chauvinism, pure and simple, boosted by the fact that for once they have had a leader who is neither a murderer, a geriatric nor a drunkard, and therefore he must be perfect.
n the name of various heroic myths, Russians have been quite prepared to abandon all responsibility for their own country and their own governance into the hands of the myth-spinners. They vote not for a realistic idea or for a practical program, nor even for a party – but for a fuzzy, emotionally-charged dream.
And so it still is. All hail, Medvedev. Russians don’t care who you are or what you stand for. You’re not a murderer, not a geriatric, not a drunk, and you embrace the current myth – that’s all that counts. Russians don’t want to take responsibility for their own affairs or for their own country. You go ahead and do it for them. And if they eventually find out they don’t like where you’re taking them, no matter – there’ll be another “strong man” in the wings somewhere, ready to spin a new paternalistic mythology to head them off into different follies.
"As somebody said, great voyages begin with small steps".
Approx 10/12 years ago, RF was faced with a multitude of problems - Terrorism, rampant looting by Oligarhs,hostility from both within and without, mounting debts etc etc. Putin has stabilized the country, bought it in the forefro0nt of World Economy and as someone mentioned - what is going to the biggest in Europe and among the 5/6 biggest in the world in the next 2/3 years. It is already the biggest car mart, the largest retail sector and easily the fastest growing.
The next evolutionary step will be the transformation from a raw material based economy to an innovation-based one. One whose brands are not only recognized but revered all over the world and not just the CIS, for their quality and reliability and not only their cheap prices. This takes time, effort and money - maybe a start can be made with Lada Motors - make it among the top 10 car manufacturers in the world, if not top 5. Unfreeze commodity prices within the country, unshackle production, heavily support agriculture, IT and demography. The results will come automatically, and within no time or little time, the world shall benefit in having a third/fourth driver in world economy apart from China, US, India , Brazil etc.
Politics and Economics are two different debating pionts aren't they?
As we know Mr. Medvedev has been overseeing Russia’s social reforms since 2006 and as sanjay has pointed out in his hard-hitting post these reforms have had little or no real impact the sums of money being proposed are just a drop in the ocean I mean 400 million dollars extra for schools is nothing in a country the size of Russia even releasing 30 or 40 billion from the stabilisation fund will help but with an inflation rate of between 12 and 13 percent this will be quickly swallowed up.
Russia has sever infrastructural problems even Moscow the jewel in Russia’s investment crown still needs 50 billion dollars worth of foreign investment to complete its proposed building projects. And now that we all face a period of recession the money Russia needs may be a lot harder to find.
Mr Medvedev as I have stated has not made any difference in social reforms many proposed schemes were cancelled due to lack of funds and there have been horrendous problems in even providing the raw materials needed.
If I was a Russian citizen Mr. Medvedevs record would not fill me with much confidence especially during a period of recession. And as foreign investment may become harder to find his in-experience on an international level will not help Russia through the tuff patch ahead.
Fair questions, which have been answered publicly many times over. What you cry about is noting in particular but about necessity of debate with Dmitry Medvedev because you can once again mention that country needs more, in your point of view, say not 1 but 2 trillion dollars. Read my first post it mentions people like you.
So what are you saying? A debate with Dmitry Medvedev would make him do more if elected? Or you think there is better candidate? Because debate is about winning elections and not really about resolving issues.
Dear Ladies & Gentlemen
Currently there is almost no surplus in Russian Budget in future there will be 0 surplus because all money are & will be spent on needs. They don’t have another trillion you want, the only money left to waste is Stabilization fund, as I mentioned in my first post, that fund will be used to balance budget at ZERO as demand or price on energy resources drops in future or anything as a mean of “insurance”. If you take insurance away you can get screwed and not able to pay your bills, benefits, pensions etc. if “climate” changes.
This matter is not for debate, because it was all debated for years publicly and now they just making effective state system.
PS IMHO Kudrin is working for any government but Russian, but it is whole another story.
A pervious contributor - The failure of GLONASS, the chronic problems in agriculture, shortage of food supply, medicines, chronic dependence on imports, chronic dependence on energy and metals exports, stashing of trillions of dollars in foreign exchange in Anglo-American banks, practically no investment in people and infrastructure, a dying populace, no industrial base, decaying infrastructure, skyrocketing electricity prices, rising inflation, these are the results of 8 years of neo-liberal finance capitalism under Kudrin.
Russian people are perhaps the most unlucky in the world. -
This response - This is perhaps the most vicious of drivel served up in the annals of RT forums! Most certainly, RF faces problems - but which country doesn't? USA, China, India, Brazil others have their entire general as well as specific problems.
Plus you've see from where RF has to where - from around the 22nd place in the world economy to now 5/6th.Probably by the year 2010/11 it'll be the biggest economy in Europe, at least (by GDP by PPP), and among the first 5.[ By nominal Dollar terms] it could take a few years more.
However, the most important thing is that now the Russians have hope backed by 'the richest resources' in the whole wide world. Plus their innovative minds, educational standards and pride!
It would be indeed surprising if with all these advantages, the Russian state or even an enlarged UNION will not take its pre-destined place in the world, among the top 3/4 or maybe even higher.
It’s all a case of sticking to the basics and proper management. However, it’s the political scenario, that's actually alarming - what with the increasing pressures by NEO-Fascists and NEO-Colonists, Military Blocs, etc etc.
A debate on how to effectively contain and counter these external threats, if anyone has proper/effective ideas, would indeed be VERY WELCOME.
1. Why Russia's Income to GDP ratio is so low 0.4 versus 0.6 or higher for developed countries including US.
2. Why is the industrial production growth rate meager 7-8% on an average for last 6 years while the real inflation is 15-20% on average.
3. What is the state of technology and infrastructure compared to other advanced countries like US, Japan, Germany.
4. In US the Investment on Infrastructure is 16-17% of the total GDP while in Russia it is a chronically low 7-8% (even this figure is optimistic and many commentators think fraudulant).
This does not even take into account that Russian infrastructure is in shambles. Investment in Infrastructure should be close to 20% of GDP, which means Russia is investing 1/3 of what is actually required.
Sergei-Ivanov said 3 months ago that russia will invest 1 trillion dollars over next 10 years in infrastructure which is half of what is required.
I am not sure with this pace of investment and with the rapidly declining population Russia will survive.
Most likely it will break-up into smaller countries, an outcome of mismanagement of the century. The neoliberal cabal of Kudrin, Gref etc have largely succeeded in their aims of destroying what was left, medvedev will probably take russia back to the 90s to finish the job.
The more I see it the more Russia is in terminal decline. Its a pity that Putin made such a bad choice for presidency and his team of advisors is nothing but a cabal of crooks, idiots and traitors.
One only has to go through the works of Stiglitz, Sen, Desai, Menshikov and others to see how Russia is being destroyed.
The failure of GLONASS, the chronic problems in agriculture, shortage of food supply, medicines, chronic dependence on imports, chronic dependence on energy and metals exports, stashing of trillions of dollars in foreign exchange in anglo-american banks, practically no investment in people and infrastructure, a dying populace, no industrial base, decaying infrastructure, skyrocketing electricity prices, rising inflation, these are the results of 8 years of neoliberal finance capitalism under Kudrin.
Russian people are perhaps the most unlucky in the world.
Don't die of shock, but I agree with MihalMihalich on this. Of course I deplore the lack of a debate, but I am sure, broadly speaking, that the reasons are as MM states. It isn't unusual for candidates (notably also in Britain) to refuse televised debates for similar reasons, although they would not admit it. Entirely a matter of strategy. We may not like it (and I certainly don't) but like it or not I'm sure that's the reason.
25 June, 2009, 07:40
I would like to state that it is important to have a free media. But the media should not be able to manipulate and distort information to their own gain. I have sensed that the BBC in the United Kingdom have done this.
Why is a free media important? Diversity! Inovation! More ideas and better ethics.
So Dimitri Medvedev should allow more debate into having a free media. But there must be control over the media to the point where privacy is not infringed. In PMQ's yesterday, the British parliament's Prime Minister's question time, an MP stood up and said that someone telephoned him. The whole house went into rapturous laughter and jeering. Why? Because the sense was that he did not physically telephone the person but in fact had just sensed a thought or a sense. Stupid really. We need a balance between reality and the metaphysical realm. I have discerned that there is a lot of ambiguity over the issue of pain and death. To the point where people disrespect pain or death because they have sensed that there is no pain or death. Saying that people do not die. They should be ashamed of themselves. So my point is, that the media should have freedom, but only along the lines of reality. Which involves primarily the physical world.
Kind regards
Anton
21 June, 2009, 14:10
Dear All_Seeing_Eye, I agree with you. The president of USA is NOT elected by the people. He is elected after much brain-washing by the TV and media owned by Zionists. The campaigns are sponsored by companies and he who can spend more money to brain-wash the people is finally elected. There are only two parties one right and one far-right. So the people are not asked to select between different political ideals but between things only God knows what... That 's why advertisement, public relations and brainwashing work so well in USA. If differences was in political ideals then advertisement, public relations and brainwashing would not work. There is no way to parsuade a liberal to vote the ... communist party, even if you show him some ... nude girls of komsomol waving soviet flags! (I krasnomu znameni slavnoi otchizni, mi budem svegda bezevyetno verni). The communists wouldn't do such a thing of course... It would be a great show anyway. In USA, stupid Americans will vote Obama just because his face is everywhere, even on ... condoms! Marzipan6 continues his/her tradition to draw satisfaction from saying bad things about Russia. Of course "by no means is he/she a fan or a defender of all things American". USA fought against Nazis as well as Russia. Of course "democracies grow, develop and succeed" so much (like the Baltics or the "orange-rebel" Ukraine) that they have been bankrupted and people there are eating from the trash! Like "mushrooms in the dark and fed you-know-what". And of course "poor" Russia "lurches from one self-reinvention to another" as a superpower. So, as impossible as it seems, I have managed to ... "agree" with Marzipan6!!! - Ergatis.
02 March, 2008, 06:30
Yes, there is a difference between the US and Russian presidential elections.
I don't recall Putin grooming his progeny or wife for the presidency. I guess Russia is just crazy, for not letting the presidency become a plaything for a handful of big businesses and family bloodlines.
27 February, 2008, 10:00
By no means am I a fan or a defender of all things American. But I do note the startling contrast between the US and Russian presidential elections.
In America, there is a desperate, entirely genuine and very public contest for who will even be the candidates. In Russia the only candidate who mattered was appointed by a regal nod of the Presidential head, and everyone knew who will win the election before even the first vote was cast.
In democratic countries, the abilities and talents of the population are genuinely empowered to be applied to the service of the country in leadership roles. In Russia, they are not. This is why democracies grow, develop and succeed, and why Russia does not, but lurches from one self-reinvention to another.
26 February, 2008, 15:01
Norman is right that debates in the current election campaign are of questionable value and is right to head up the feebleness of the 3 candidates who have anything to gain by debate:
One represents the past, one is a caricature and one is a stooge candidate put in place to give the preceedings some harmless, eccentric "interest".
The fact is that the authorities saw to it long ago by a series of means that no one with anything meaningful to say in the way of criticism of the current regime would have access to the airtime allotted to presidential candidates.
A truly deplorable state of affairs.
26 February, 2008, 06:40
Medvedev clearly fears being put in the same spotlight as Zyuganov and to a much lesser extent Bogdonov. Medvedev is seen as Putin's successor and therefore the right man for the job. The people think Putin is infallible and his support of Medvedev transfers their support for Putin to Medvedev. If Medvedev is seen as an equal to Zyuganov in a debate then his arguments will fail. The Putin government has no real plan for Russia and are just sitting on oil revenue. A debate on policy between Medvedev and Zyuganov would be disastrous for Medvedev.
26 February, 2008, 01:57
Simply put: Zyugannov is just romanticising the old failed policies of the USSR. Zhironovsky is still getting into fights. The other candidate is a 4% candidate. Mr. Medvedev is out there doing things and giving his vision of Russia's possible future! As much as I love debates, I question whether they would work in Russia's election.
05 February, 2008, 20:41
Draw Bridge
Most of what you said are not based on facts and figures. What you are saying just some abstract predictions.
No it is not. See – The latest ‘CIA’ year Book! And check out the figures. Probably the figures are a bit understated for Russia (7th), but with latest figures by ROSSTAT, it’s almost certainly 6th!
If you read my post and can refute even a single fact or figure than we can talk further. Also, you are too focused on economy as a function of GDP. This is a very failing approach and very poor indicator indeed.
The GDP is the starting point in any policy. If you don’t have the money, no matter how well intentioned you are, no money, no implementation. PLAIN and SIMPLE.
Drugs for cardiovascular, diabetes, vaccines and medicines for infectious diseases. None. Its one of the worst human tragedies unfolding in any part of the world today except Sub-Saharan Africa.
Agree, the Russian Health care system is not up to the levels required or even desired. That’s the reason for the NATIONAL PROJECTS. Something better than nothing.
Why is Medvedev not willing to discuss these problems? Who said that? But you think these will be discussed? No the opposition, if there is one, will discuss Politskaya, Human Rights etc etc.
Why were the social projects not launched in 2001 instead of 2005? Why is so less money, less than 0.9% of GDP being invested in social projects (housing education, health, pensions etc)? – Please check out your figures and state sources. In any case, the US medical sector is abdominal, though that’s no excuse…
The problem of Inflation is not a monetary problem in Russia; it is a deep production deficit that is hemorrhaging the economy. Due to shoddy infrastructure and ill-conceived programs to boost small businesses and a deeply unjust tax system Russia continues to be in a depressed state forever. – Please compare today with 1998 and you’ll get the idea.
Medvedev-Kudrin nexus are deliberately accelerating the decay and death of Russia through their policies.- Maybe you can suggest someone BETTER?
Sanjay, I’m not for one minute defending Medvedev’s refusal to debate NOR SUGGESTING that everything is hunky-Dory in RF. My contention is that, UNLIKE many other Emerging Economies, RF has had to face many challenges that are unique. Among them – The dependence on BLOOD-SUCKING neighbors for transit routes, an almost unworkable industrial base inherited from 70 years of “ Misguided” Socialism, the lethargy of the post0soviet era, bad decisions on part of many ‘west dependent’ advisors etc etc. What I’m saying is that, Russia today is a VASTLY UNDERPERFORMING COUNTRY considering its potential, and Putin has built a momentum, that is more or less Ok considering the internal and external pressures him and Russia faces.
Unless and until there is viable opposition, laden with constructive insights and alternative solutions to these problems, a debate for a debate’s sake MAY NOT get any credible results, other than WILD accusations and denials.
In any case, one who doesn’t engage – Does he loses or wins?? AND I’M TALKING IN GENERAL TERMS.
05 February, 2008, 19:47
Sevodnya
My prediction is that most of these so called Siloviki will either be purged or will retire with their billions stashed in anglo-american banks.
The ones who are purged will get nothing. The ones who retire will get billions.
The ones who are still in power will eventually get mega-billions.
The fourth group,the tiny monority, the patriots, will go down fighting like Stolypin, or if some miracle happens, they will triumph aginst the first three groups.
But so far it looks like the short-term opportunists and long term opportunists will win and a section of the patriots will be purged.
05 February, 2008, 18:52
Draw Bridge
Most of what you said are not based on facts and figures. What you are saying just some abstract predictions.
If you read my post and can refute even a single fact or figure than we can talk further. Also, you are too focused on economy as a function of GDP. This is a very failing approach and very poor indicator indeed.
What you failed to mention was that life expectency of males in Russia is an abominable 56 years, similar to many subsaharan countries.
Women don't fare too well either.
Human Development Index (HDI) which is a composite measure of prosperity, education and life expectency is a much more accurate indicator.
Russia ranks a poor 65th in HDI which is really trajic and a direct effect of the neoliberal policies of Medvedev-Kudrin Nexus.
Most of the GDP growth in Russia is a result of extremely imbalanced export oriented energy, metals and timber sector.
Russia has not ivested in its people and its fixed-infrastructure. Schools, Hospitals, Transport Systems, housing.
Russia a country of 140 million people where millions are dying from cancer and infectious diseases has only, here is the bombshell,
only 70 machines for cancer radiotherapy whereas US has 3000. Why couldnt they buy a thousand machines from that stabilization fund to immediately address the equipment shortage for cancer patients in Russia is beoynd belief.
The pharmaceutical sector in Russia is so underdeveloped that its astonishing how carelessly people talk about Russia as a trillion dollar economy.
Forget about cutting edge Biotech, Russia does not even have a functional generic drugs market. Can you name even a single billion dollar pharmaceutical firm developing producing and distributing affordable generic drugs in Russia.
Drugs for cardiovascular, diabetes, vaccines and medicines for infectious diseases. None. Its one of the worst human trajedies unfolding in any part of the world today except Subsaharan Africa.
Why is Medvedev not willing to dicuss these problems?
Why were the social projects not launched in 2001 instead of 2005. Why is so less money, less than 0.9% of GDP being invested in social projects (housing education, health, pensions etc).
The problem of Inflation is not a monetary problem in Russia, it is a deep production deficit that is haemorrhaging the economy. Due to shoddy infrastructure and ill-concieved programs to boost small buisnesses and a deeply unjest tax system Russia continues to be in a depressed state forever.
Medvedev-Kudrin nexus are deliberately accelerating the decay and death of RUssia through their policies.
05 February, 2008, 10:16
I don't think the problem is just Putin. He doesn't run Russia on his own. It would be interesting to know what the Ivanovs, the Lavrovs and the other "siloviki" make of Medvedev's "appointment". They expended a lot of, shall we say hard effort, to get where they are today, and Mr Medvedev will have to tread very carefully not to upset them.
Conspiracy theorists have Mr Medvedev meeting an unfortunate accident and being replaced should the need arise by Mr Putin (who I believe is able to stand again after a break), or at the very least being set up as expendable fall guy to be replaced, discredited, by one of the FSB "old boys" in due course. I honestly don't believe any of that, but the fact is United Russia is now starting to dominate life - not just political life - in Russia the way the old Soviet Communist party used to.
05 February, 2008, 08:50
I would never vote for a candidate who disrespects and patronises – or fears – his would-be constituents, myself included, enough to where he does not even deign to show his face in a debate in an election campaign. Such a candidate either considers the public to be something akin to mushrooms (ie, keep them in the dark, and feed them you-know-what), or he is scared of them and thinks that if he actually reveals his real self to them, they will reject him. Yet surprisingly enough, Russians apparently would, and will, vote for precisely such a candidate.
In my view this is because Russians are not used to thinking of themselves as the masters of their country. They do not look at their government as being their servants, to rule on their behalf and in their interests, do not require their government officials to be answerable to them and are not in the habit of dismissing governments and officials who are incompetent, self-seeking or corrupt. Instead, Russians are habitually in love with some heroic myth. In tsarist times used to be “Holy Russia”, in Soviet times it was the messianic nonsense of Marxist gobbledegook, and in post-Soviet times it is Russian chauvinism, pure and simple, boosted by the fact that for once they have had a leader who is neither a murderer, a geriatric nor a drunkard, and therefore he must be perfect.
n the name of various heroic myths, Russians have been quite prepared to abandon all responsibility for their own country and their own governance into the hands of the myth-spinners. They vote not for a realistic idea or for a practical program, nor even for a party – but for a fuzzy, emotionally-charged dream.
And so it still is. All hail, Medvedev. Russians don’t care who you are or what you stand for. You’re not a murderer, not a geriatric, not a drunk, and you embrace the current myth – that’s all that counts. Russians don’t want to take responsibility for their own affairs or for their own country. You go ahead and do it for them. And if they eventually find out they don’t like where you’re taking them, no matter – there’ll be another “strong man” in the wings somewhere, ready to spin a new paternalistic mythology to head them off into different follies.
05 February, 2008, 07:44
no doubt on advice or rather orders from putin.I dont think Medvedev has a mind of his own
04 February, 2008, 13:02
"As somebody said, great voyages begin with small steps".
Approx 10/12 years ago, RF was faced with a multitude of problems - Terrorism, rampant looting by Oligarhs,hostility from both within and without, mounting debts etc etc.
Putin has stabilized the country, bought it in the forefro0nt of World Economy and as someone mentioned - what is going to the biggest in Europe
and among the 5/6 biggest in the world in the next 2/3 years. It is already the biggest car mart, the largest retail sector and easily the fastest growing.
The next evolutionary step will be the transformation from a raw material based economy to an innovation-based one. One whose brands are not only recognized but revered all over the world and not just the CIS, for their quality and reliability and not only their cheap prices.
This takes time, effort and money - maybe a start can be made with Lada Motors - make it among the top 10 car manufacturers in the world, if not top 5.
Unfreeze commodity prices within the country, unshackle production, heavily support agriculture, IT and demography.
The results will come automatically, and within no time or little time, the world shall benefit in having a third/fourth driver in world economy apart from China, US, India , Brazil etc.
Politics and Economics are two different debating pionts aren't they?
04 February, 2008, 12:30
As we know Mr. Medvedev has been overseeing Russia’s social reforms since 2006 and as sanjay has pointed out in his hard-hitting post these reforms have had little or no real impact the sums of money being proposed are just a drop in the ocean I mean 400 million dollars extra for schools is nothing in a country the size of Russia even releasing 30 or 40 billion from the stabilisation fund will help but with an inflation rate of between 12 and 13 percent this will be quickly swallowed up.
Russia has sever infrastructural problems even Moscow the jewel in Russia’s investment crown still needs 50 billion dollars worth of foreign investment to complete its proposed building projects. And now that we all face a period of recession the money Russia needs may be a lot harder to find.
Mr Medvedev as I have stated has not made any difference in social reforms many proposed schemes were cancelled due to lack of funds and there have been horrendous problems in even providing the raw materials needed.
If I was a Russian citizen Mr. Medvedevs record would not fill me with much confidence especially during a period of recession. And as foreign investment may become harder to find his in-experience on an international level will not help Russia through the tuff patch ahead.
03 February, 2008, 03:01
Once again I find myself in broad agreement with Sanjay.
30 January, 2008, 17:46
RE Sanjay
Fair questions, which have been answered publicly many times over. What you cry about is noting in particular but about necessity of debate with Dmitry Medvedev because you can once again mention that country needs more, in your point of view, say not 1 but 2 trillion dollars. Read my first post it mentions people like you.
So what are you saying? A debate with Dmitry Medvedev would make him do more if elected? Or you think there is better candidate? Because debate is about winning elections and not really about resolving issues.
Dear Ladies & Gentlemen
Currently there is almost no surplus in Russian Budget in future there will be 0 surplus because all money are & will be spent on needs. They don’t have another trillion you want, the only money left to waste is Stabilization fund, as I mentioned in my first post, that fund will be used to balance budget at ZERO as demand or price on energy resources drops in future or anything as a mean of “insurance”. If you take insurance away you can get screwed and not able to pay your bills, benefits, pensions etc. if “climate” changes.
This matter is not for debate, because it was all debated for years publicly and now they just making effective state system.
PS IMHO Kudrin is working for any government but Russian, but it is whole another story.
Best Regards.
30 January, 2008, 17:39
A pervious contributor - The failure of GLONASS, the chronic problems in agriculture, shortage of food supply, medicines, chronic dependence on imports, chronic dependence on energy and metals exports, stashing of trillions of dollars in foreign exchange in Anglo-American banks, practically no investment in people and infrastructure, a dying populace, no industrial base, decaying infrastructure, skyrocketing electricity prices, rising inflation, these are the results of 8 years of neo-liberal finance capitalism under Kudrin.
Russian people are perhaps the most unlucky in the world. -
This response - This is perhaps the most vicious of drivel served up in the annals of RT forums!
Most certainly, RF faces problems - but which country doesn't? USA, China, India, Brazil others have their entire general as well as specific problems.
Plus you've see from where RF has to where - from around the 22nd place in the world economy to now 5/6th.Probably by the year 2010/11 it'll be the biggest economy in Europe, at least (by GDP by PPP), and among the first 5.[ By nominal Dollar terms] it could take a few years more.
However, the most important thing is that now the Russians have hope backed by 'the richest resources' in the whole wide world. Plus their innovative minds, educational standards and pride!
It would be indeed surprising if with all these advantages, the Russian state or even an enlarged UNION will not take its pre-destined place in the world, among the top 3/4 or maybe even higher.
It’s all a case of sticking to the basics and proper management.
However, it’s the political scenario, that's actually alarming - what with the increasing pressures by NEO-Fascists and NEO-Colonists, Military Blocs, etc etc.
A debate on how to effectively contain and counter these external threats, if anyone has proper/effective ideas, would indeed be VERY WELCOME.
30 January, 2008, 01:19
More burning questions for Presidential Debate:
1. Why Russia's Income to GDP ratio is so low 0.4 versus 0.6 or higher for developed countries including US.
2. Why is the industrial production growth rate meager 7-8% on an average for last 6 years while the real inflation is 15-20% on average.
3. What is the state of technology and infrastructure compared to other advanced countries like US, Japan, Germany.
4. In US the Investment on Infrastructure is 16-17% of the total GDP
while in Russia it is a chronically low 7-8% (even this figure is optimistic and many commentators think fraudulant).
This does not even take into account that Russian infrastructure is in shambles. Investment in Infrastructure should be close to 20% of GDP, which means Russia is investing 1/3 of what is actually required.
Sergei-Ivanov said 3 months ago that russia will invest 1 trillion dollars over next 10 years in infrastructure which is half of what is required.
I am not sure with this pace of investment and with the rapidly declining population Russia will survive.
Most likely it will break-up into smaller countries, an outcome of mismanagement of the century. The neoliberal cabal of Kudrin, Gref etc have largely succeeded in their aims of destroying what was left, medvedev will probably take russia back to the 90s to finish the job.
The more I see it the more Russia is in terminal decline. Its a pity that Putin made such a bad choice for presidency and his team of advisors is nothing but a cabal of crooks, idiots and traitors.
One only has to go through the works of Stiglitz, Sen, Desai, Menshikov and others to see how Russia is being destroyed.
The failure of GLONASS, the chronic problems in agriculture, shortage of food supply, medicines, chronic dependence on imports, chronic dependence on energy and metals exports, stashing of trillions of dollars in foreign exchange in anglo-american banks, practically no investment in people and infrastructure, a dying populace, no industrial base, decaying infrastructure, skyrocketing electricity prices, rising inflation, these are the results of 8 years of neoliberal finance capitalism under Kudrin.
Russian people are perhaps the most unlucky in the world.
29 January, 2008, 19:20
Don't die of shock, but I agree with MihalMihalich on this.
Of course I deplore the lack of a debate, but I am sure, broadly speaking, that the reasons are as MM states. It isn't unusual for candidates (notably also in Britain) to refuse televised debates for similar reasons, although they would not admit it. Entirely a matter of strategy. We may not like it (and I certainly don't) but like it or not I'm sure that's the reason.
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