I wish to start my comment with a note to RT. Our nicknames do not appear at our comments and paragraph formating is destroyed and words (not "bad" words) are vanished. Please do something... The comment @ 19 June, 2009, 07:44 was mine.
Now let's return to the subject. I agree with the comment @ 20 June, 2009, 14:02. The story of the kidnapping with the aid of a country really angers me a lot. They even consider the orthodox church as a ... cult!!! So pay them with the same coin... Kidnap a Finnish and exchange him with the boy at the border line! This happened A LOT of times during the cold war, so the experience and the "know-how", no doubt, still exists. (I am a fan of cold war spy movies...) Then Putin or Lavrov may say that protestants are ... cultists!!! That was good...
I agree with the comment @ 13 June, 2009, 04:35 that Russians, of all people, should know what happens when the jewish oligarchs attempt to destroy a country in the name of Isis Ra El. Mass media propaganda and financial invasion... The financial invasion failed thanks to the efforts of Vladimir but he really should do something about the propaganda. USA is the "bad guy" and NOT Russia!!!
BTW the efforts of Putin to get rid of Russia's enemies have been called by US propagandists an... "authoritarian regime", ie what exactly USA really is!
It will probably accelerate the spreading of russophobia in Europe. In Finland it is already happening with the same type of government in power. The whole media is full of anti-Russian propaganda. Take for example the case with the Russian boy, who was recently kidnapped from his mother in Russia and smuggled to Finland in the car of a Finnish diplomat. The whole Finnish media and government officials praised the unlawful deeds of the boy’s Finnish father and the officials of the Finnish Foreign ministry. Finnish media has been spreading the father’s stories, that the boy’s mother is unstable, belonging to some religious sect (Russian orthodox) and that the sect is involved in his separation with the son. Finnish TV also showed the program with insinuations of the boy’s starving in Russia because of fasting before Easter. The orthodox community near Tampere was constantly attacked by the media in regard to this case. The children of this community have been teased by others and have been suffering because of the media interpretation. But on 18.6 the police of Tampere decided to open the case against the boy’s father on the issue of spreading hatred against ethnic and religious groups, having received documents proving the sect-statements being wrong as well as many other claims on the issue made in the Finnish media. And now Finnish mainstream media is totally silent about the decision to start investigation as if all the newspapers and TV-channels simultaneously received an order not to publish this information. So, was it all (anti-Russian propaganda) orchestrated from above? Was the kidnapping and smuggling of the Russian boy a deliberate slam in Russia’s face?
The NWO system did a "fine" work in Europe... The NATO around the planet are excelent immigrant-producing factories, their "products" are transported to Europe by slave merchants and there they serve three purposes:
1. Cheap workers with no rights for the companies. Unemployment decreases wages and working/social rights.
2. A good tool to increase criminality. The crime is the best ally of capitalists. It keeps people scared and locked in their homes, preventing any collective social action.
3. The reaction of voters. Scared by the criminality and angry by the unemployment people turn right to more conservative parties to get rid of the "annoying" immigrants.
Conservative politicians, fascists and financial crisis is a VERY BAD combination. We have seen it before and the outcome was the WW2. History is going to be repeated.
Historically speaking these events mean "Watch Out Russia!(...and all her eastern european allies)". When Westerners begin to feel the economic pinch they turn their eyes eastward scanning for easy prey as did Charles of Sweden, Napoleon, Hitler & the denisons of NATO...with boring regularity... The corporate economies of the West need cheap labor and resources to fuel the elaborate military/industrial complexes that serve the governing elites and their institutions. Colonialism has been exposed as naked aggression so the Asians, Africans & (some) native Americans are now aware of the earmarks of exploitation....Eastern Europeans including Russians seem unaware of these tendencies & seem to think they can trust the west because of their common racial & ethnic roots...The westerners with monsters like Soros and other such financial titans pull strings in the background & are always looking for that pretext for invasion....... Need a blueprint? Look at Yugoslavia.....
I think the heart of the common voter, longs to belong, we can all feel our roots eroding, like we don’t really belong to anything, no greater purpose than to go to work and then die. There’s no sense of community, we just ‘things’ in a system. Hate against foreigners, and other knee jerk xenophobic reactions are just the symptom, one that is being exploited by politicians, but it’s not the cause. People are feeling the system above ‘democracy’, alien central banks that are not of the country, and that’s what’s driving the extreme nationalism, triggered by a crisis. Ask young people why they don’t vote in South Africa, or Europe and they’ll tell you because it makes no difference, nothing changes. I’m guessing only 30% of Europe goes to the polls because they know the ECB is still run by the same people and those people pay the politicians to destroy society. This is what attracts people to Russia like a magnet, leaders that are clearly of and for their people, not some puppet president working for an offshore hedge fund and selling his people down the river. That’s what drives people, but what I think is happening in Europe is the exploitation of the apathetic voter which makes it easy to finance the enraged xenophobes and secure an agenda. It’s the same banks playing the same game with just a different face… nothing will change except some poor foreigners are going to pay the price for bad government. If you want change, vote for central bank governors, those are the real aliens in most countries.
Strange how they are supposed to be fighting a war "on terrorism" or a war "on terror"! yet they leave the border to Mexico wide, wide,wide open! Anyone can just walk across and they do - groups of people cross from Mexico into the US every day. They just walk in, literally. Very strange indeed.
I dont think it is a matter of old history versus globalization. It is a matter of putting food on the table or not. If you rather open your borders to foreigners than put food on the table of your citizens then there is something wrong with your priorities. Usually you will find it is the human rights acitivists that will be in the fore front of fighting for things such as open borders and foreigners to enter countries, but the moment those foreigners from other countries start to break down the cultures and areas they luve in these leftest human rights activists is the first to leave the country targeting another country with perfect cultural and social structures breaking good things down. I have not met one greenpiece human rights activists that has done one days work hard work contributing to the weath of the country. They are always active in the social political swere of life busy tormenting hard working people. But then again they will probably say these are right wing comments.
What resurgence of the right-wing in Europe? Successive governments throughout Europe since the end of the 1980's and the fall of the Berlin Wall - even those espousing "Social Democracy" - have been consistently more to the "Right than Hitler". That is the case whether declared "conservative" or "social democrat" or not!! Ask any Working Class family anywhere in Europe from Russia westward!! However such is not just a matter of politics rather also that of economics and ideology too. Where there is a vacuum the need is for the void to be filled. What will fill it - we Proletarians - ponder?? Could such be filled with a proletarian scientific approach in social relations - where Dialectical Materialism is its central focus - as a premise to start from - or is that something tried and failed before in the 19th and 20th Centuries?? Will there be a resurgence of Proletarian Values in everyday life throughout Europe - afresh?? The current economic crisis objectively points to a very loud "Yes" !! However where are the subjective Proletarian forces of old nowadays?? - Still hiding behind "Economism" which Lenin forewarned of some 80 years ago - no doubt?? So - Is it back to "What's To Be Done" and "Where To Begin" - afresh?? Or - should we do nothing but proselytize from one foot to the other and back again - afresh?? What a merry dance that would be - once more - and still be unable to halt Capitalism in its tracks!! What do you imagine the very long-suffering Working Class need - more corrupt professional politicians - or "Real Social Change" where the end of "Exploitation of Man by Man" is the main goal?? ///snowyone.
The problem with the USA is that several years ago the immigration laws were changed to allow those people without any technical skills or advanced education (BA, MA, PhD, MD, ..etc) to enter the country. Not only that, the border between Mexico and the USA (though fenced) is still the pathway to freedom, jobs and all the conveniences (MEDICARE, MEDICAID, AND BIRTH RITES). Programs, policies and opportunities that "I" have to pay for while being doled out a few pennies from social security. Zero-bama will take us further on the road to socialism.
It is not easily explained by political persuasion. Many people are unhappy that their homeland is being flooded by foreigners who have no regard for local cultural practices. Some of these people are treated by the respective gouvernment better than their own pensioners. I think of how Pat Buchanan in the US said if you like Globalization, you love Multiculturalism. If a matter of old history, it's alright. If a matter of ideology, in can be challenged fairly.
Russians, of all people, should know what happens when the jewish oligarchs attempt to destroy a country in the name of Isis Ra El. Is this not a rhetorical question? Common enemies will make Russia an ally in my generation. Say hello to a man who has met the American CIA. I know what I'm saying. In fact, we know each other quite well in certain circumstances and areas. Watch the dollar dive, and know, that we want to be paid in Euros.
I fear what their doing in the UK is a lot to little and a lot to late, The Immigration laws and the social welfare laws have done the harm already, just as in the USA the damage has been done and it's to late to recover. The Liberals just cant seem to grasp the concept of " just spend what you take in tax's " and because they want everyone to feel good, open the gates and let them all in. So the best we can hope for is a few more years of instability, and then a complete and total depression.
I agree with the some of the last comments made. At the end of the day if you want to weaken your country you most open it up for foreigners. At the end you sit with economic and social problems. There is a saying that says charity starts at home. So first get your own house in order before you venture out. South Africa is a brilliant example. It is more important for this government to open its borders for foreigners than to look after its own people. You only need to look at the crimes committed in the country. The shops being opened in the townships by foreigners with counterfeit goods putting legitemate business out of busness. But then those human rights activist will stop you from looking after your own people. All I can say any government that opens its borders to just any person face chaos. Just look at the east side of London. I will never live there the place is falling apart. Take care of the home country and its people first and then immigrants last. Sadley South Africa has already lost the battle and its people are suffering the consequences. But this is what the government wants and this is what its people are voting for. Hopefully Russia will not follow the same path.
In the first place they are NOT right wingers or socialists AT ALL! They are conservatives and they favor taking care of the home country first and immigrants LAST if at all.
They do not favor "give away the money programs" to immigrants at the expense of the CITIZENS.
They do not favor special programs to give immigrants better health care and HOMES than the working citizens have at their disposal.
I, for one wish the USA would get rid of all socialist LEFTISTS that have stolen the USA from its REAL citizens.
21 June, 2009, 10:26
I wish to start my comment with a note to RT. Our nicknames do not appear at our comments and paragraph formating is destroyed and words (not "bad" words) are vanished. Please do something... The comment @ 19 June, 2009, 07:44 was mine.
Now let's return to the subject. I agree with the comment @ 20 June, 2009, 14:02. The story of the kidnapping with the aid of a country really angers me a lot. They even consider the orthodox church as a ... cult!!! So pay them with the same coin... Kidnap a Finnish and exchange him with the boy at the border line! This happened A LOT of times during the cold war, so the experience and the "know-how", no doubt, still exists. (I am a fan of cold war spy movies...) Then Putin or Lavrov may say that protestants are ... cultists!!! That was good...
I agree with the comment @ 13 June, 2009, 04:35 that Russians, of all people, should know what happens when the jewish oligarchs attempt to destroy a country in the name of Isis Ra El. Mass media propaganda and financial invasion... The financial invasion failed thanks to the efforts of Vladimir but he really should do something about the propaganda. USA is the "bad guy" and NOT Russia!!!
BTW the efforts of Putin to get rid of Russia's enemies have been called by US propagandists an... "authoritarian regime", ie what exactly USA really is!
Ergatis
20 June, 2009, 14:02
It will probably accelerate the spreading of russophobia in Europe. In Finland it is already happening with the same type of government in power. The whole media is full of anti-Russian propaganda.
Take for example the case with the Russian boy, who was recently kidnapped from his mother in Russia and smuggled to Finland in the car of a Finnish diplomat. The whole Finnish media and government officials praised the unlawful deeds of the boy’s Finnish father and the officials of the Finnish Foreign ministry. Finnish media has been spreading the father’s stories, that the boy’s mother is unstable, belonging to some religious sect (Russian orthodox) and that the sect is involved in his separation with the son. Finnish TV also showed the program with insinuations of the boy’s starving in Russia because of fasting before Easter. The orthodox community near Tampere was constantly attacked by the media in regard to this case. The children of this community have been teased by others and have been suffering because of the media interpretation.
But on 18.6 the police of Tampere decided to open the case against the boy’s father on the issue of spreading hatred against ethnic and religious groups, having received documents proving the sect-statements being wrong as well as many other claims on the issue made in the Finnish media.
And now Finnish mainstream media is totally silent about the decision to start investigation as if all the newspapers and TV-channels simultaneously received an order not to publish this information. So, was it all (anti-Russian propaganda) orchestrated from above? Was the kidnapping and smuggling of the Russian boy a deliberate slam in Russia’s face?
19 June, 2009, 07:44
The NWO system did a "fine" work in Europe... The NATO around the planet are excelent immigrant-producing factories, their "products" are transported to Europe by slave merchants and there they serve three purposes:
1. Cheap workers with no rights for the companies. Unemployment decreases wages and working/social rights.
2. A good tool to increase criminality. The crime is the best ally of capitalists. It keeps people scared and locked in their homes, preventing any collective social action.
3. The reaction of voters. Scared by the criminality and angry by the unemployment people turn right to more conservative parties to get rid of the "annoying" immigrants.
Conservative politicians, fascists and financial crisis is a VERY BAD combination. We have seen it before and the outcome was the WW2. History is going to be repeated.
18 June, 2009, 19:29
Historically speaking these events mean "Watch Out Russia!(...and all her eastern european allies)". When Westerners begin to feel the economic pinch they turn their eyes eastward scanning for easy prey as did Charles of Sweden, Napoleon, Hitler & the denisons of NATO...with boring regularity... The corporate economies of the West need cheap labor and resources to fuel the elaborate military/industrial complexes that serve the governing elites and their institutions. Colonialism has been exposed as naked aggression so the Asians, Africans & (some) native Americans are now aware of the earmarks of exploitation....Eastern Europeans including Russians seem unaware of these tendencies & seem to think they can trust the west because of their common racial & ethnic roots...The westerners with monsters like Soros and other such financial titans pull strings in the background & are always looking for that pretext for invasion....... Need a blueprint? Look at Yugoslavia.....
18 June, 2009, 19:19
why you didn't respect to iranian voter.
16 June, 2009, 17:11
I think the heart of the common voter, longs to belong, we can all feel our roots eroding, like we don’t really belong to anything, no greater purpose than to go to work and then die. There’s no sense of community, we just ‘things’ in a system.
Hate against foreigners, and other knee jerk xenophobic reactions are just the symptom, one that is being exploited by politicians, but it’s not the cause.
People are feeling the system above ‘democracy’, alien central banks that are not of the country, and that’s what’s driving the extreme nationalism, triggered by a crisis.
Ask young people why they don’t vote in South Africa, or Europe and they’ll tell you because it makes no difference, nothing changes.
I’m guessing only 30% of Europe goes to the polls because they know the ECB is still run by the same people and those people pay the politicians to destroy society.
This is what attracts people to Russia like a magnet, leaders that are clearly of and for their people, not some puppet president working for an offshore hedge fund and selling his people down the river.
That’s what drives people, but what I think is happening in Europe is the exploitation of the apathetic voter which makes it easy to finance the enraged xenophobes and secure an agenda. It’s the same banks playing the same game with just a different face… nothing will change except some poor foreigners are going to pay the price for bad government. If you want change, vote for central bank governors, those are the real aliens in most countries.
16 June, 2009, 17:04
Strange how they are supposed to be fighting a war "on terrorism" or a war "on terror"! yet they leave the border to Mexico wide, wide,wide open! Anyone can just walk across and they do - groups of people cross from Mexico into the US every day. They just walk in, literally.
Very strange indeed.
16 June, 2009, 08:54
I think it can go. Let's wait and see. Don't worry.
13 June, 2009, 14:36
I dont think it is a matter of old history versus globalization. It is a matter of putting food on the table or not. If you rather open your borders to foreigners than put food on the table of your citizens then there is something wrong with your priorities. Usually you will find it is the human rights acitivists that will be in the fore front of fighting for things such as open borders and foreigners to enter countries, but the moment those foreigners from other countries start to break down the cultures and areas they luve in these leftest human rights activists is the first to leave the country targeting another country with perfect cultural and social structures breaking good things down. I have not met one greenpiece human rights activists that has done one days work hard work contributing to the weath of the country. They are always active in the social political swere of life busy tormenting hard working people. But then again they will probably say these are right wing comments.
13 June, 2009, 08:41
What resurgence of the right-wing in Europe?
Successive governments throughout Europe since the end of the 1980's and the fall of the Berlin Wall - even those espousing "Social Democracy" - have been consistently more to the "Right than Hitler".
That is the case whether declared "conservative" or "social democrat" or not!!
Ask any Working Class family anywhere in Europe from Russia westward!!
However such is not just a matter of politics rather also that of economics and ideology too.
Where there is a vacuum the need is for the void to be filled.
What will fill it - we Proletarians - ponder??
Could such be filled with a proletarian scientific approach in social relations - where Dialectical Materialism is its central focus - as a premise to start from - or is that something tried and failed before in the 19th and 20th Centuries??
Will there be a resurgence of Proletarian Values in everyday life throughout Europe - afresh??
The current economic crisis objectively points to a very loud "Yes" !!
However where are the subjective Proletarian forces of old nowadays?? - Still hiding behind
"Economism" which Lenin forewarned of some 80 years ago - no doubt??
So - Is it back to "What's To Be Done" and "Where To Begin" - afresh??
Or - should we do nothing but proselytize from one foot to the other and back again - afresh??
What a merry dance that would be - once more - and still be unable to halt Capitalism in its tracks!!
What do you imagine the very long-suffering Working Class need - more corrupt professional politicians - or "Real Social Change" where the end of "Exploitation of Man by Man" is the main goal?? ///snowyone.
13 June, 2009, 07:43
The problem with the USA is that several years ago the immigration laws were changed to allow those people without any technical skills or advanced education (BA, MA, PhD, MD, ..etc) to enter the country. Not only that, the border between Mexico and the USA (though fenced) is still the pathway to freedom, jobs and all the conveniences (MEDICARE, MEDICAID, AND BIRTH RITES). Programs, policies and opportunities that "I" have to pay for while being doled out a few pennies from social security. Zero-bama will take us further on the road to socialism.
13 June, 2009, 05:12
It is not easily explained by political persuasion. Many people are unhappy that their homeland is being flooded by foreigners who have no regard for local cultural practices. Some of these people are treated by the respective gouvernment better than their own pensioners. I think of how Pat Buchanan in the US said if you like Globalization, you love Multiculturalism. If a matter of old history, it's alright. If a matter of ideology, in can be challenged fairly.
Spasiba, Brian
13 June, 2009, 04:35
Russians, of all people, should know what happens when the jewish oligarchs attempt to destroy a country in the name of Isis Ra El. Is this not a rhetorical question? Common enemies will make Russia an ally in my generation. Say hello to a man who has met the American CIA. I know what I'm saying. In fact, we know each other quite well in certain circumstances and areas. Watch the dollar dive, and know, that we want to be paid in Euros.
Thanks,
BUY ME
11 June, 2009, 14:51
I fear what their doing in the UK is a lot to little and a lot
to late, The Immigration laws and the social welfare laws
have done the harm already, just as in the USA the damage has been done and it's to late to recover. The
Liberals just cant seem to grasp the concept of " just spend what you take in tax's " and because they want everyone to feel good, open the gates and let them all in.
So the best we can hope for is a few more years of instability, and then a complete and total depression.
10 June, 2009, 18:51
I agree with the some of the last comments made. At the end of the day if you want to weaken your country you most open it up for foreigners. At the end you sit with economic and social problems. There is a saying that says charity starts at home. So first get your own house in order before you venture out. South Africa is a brilliant example. It is more important for this government to open its borders for foreigners than to look after its own people. You only need to look at the crimes committed in the country. The shops being opened in the townships by foreigners with counterfeit goods putting legitemate business out of busness. But then those human rights activist will stop you from looking after your own people. All I can say any government that opens its borders to just any person face chaos. Just look at the east side of London. I will never live there the place is falling apart. Take care of the home country and its people first and then immigrants last. Sadley South Africa has already lost the battle and its people are suffering the consequences. But this is what the government wants and this is what its people are voting for. Hopefully Russia will not follow the same path.
10 June, 2009, 15:05
In the first place they are NOT right wingers or socialists AT ALL! They are conservatives and they favor taking care of the home country first and immigrants LAST if at all.
They do not favor "give away the money programs" to immigrants at the expense of the CITIZENS.
They do not favor special programs to give immigrants better health care and HOMES than the working citizens have at their disposal.
I, for one wish the USA would get rid of all socialist LEFTISTS that have stolen the USA from its REAL citizens.
Starting with that NON-CITIZEN, zero-bama!!
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