Through Islamic proxy, terrorism and organised crime, collapse of the Russian economy causing a massive demographic shift, intensive hate media campaign, subversion and financing all the political parties during the 90's were Jewish or half Jewish and the opposition parties in Russia spearheaded by NED a CIA front as well as EU, Soros and the British foreign office as well as front NGO's,
Just like they did to the Serbs during the 90's to the present and surprise, surprise it just happens to be the exact same people involved.
Basically what they did with Communism replacing socialism with Islam.
Read Zbignew Brezinskis book the Grand Chessboard that pretty much tell us how it will be done.
At least some people know the score.
http://www.voltairenet.org/article30038.html
FBI whistleblower Sidel Edmonds confirms US, Turkey, Saudi Arabia are training promoting and financing Islamic terrorism in Russia and Central Asia was good background info.
The US soldiers won’t be to happy to find out that US and British SAS, Turkish military, etc trained Islamic militants there fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan for the past 3 decades fighting an utterly bogus international terrorist organisation.
That the Geostrategic game of chess is on and the establishment of power in the so called Black whole region is fully alive and continuing. The Eurasian Balkans is fought over politically and by proxy as already proven.
The ethnic cauldron is represented by the nine are Kazakstan, Kyrgystan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Azerbaijan, Armenia, and Georgia. This would today include Abkhazia and South Ossetia but as neither of them is recognized by the cabal of European Union or the United States, Israel their name is carefully hidden in the one and single entity of Georgia.
Now the battle of political influence and control in this region is alive and sparkling, the war in South Ossetia backed by Israel, U.S and the European Union is only proof that these three players do have interests in the region and a interest they wont step away from easily. The control or at least a foothold in the region is important to keep the Federation of Russia busy with European proxy supremacy.
The so called democratic bridgehead consisting of France, Germany, Poland and Ukraine is already well established so The Eurasian Balkans is of course the last bastion of Geopolitical conquest the Europeans and Americans along with their allies such as Israel need to have to complete their sinister plan of global geostrategic imperatives put in stone.
For more information I suggest to all of you to get the book The Grand Chessboard American Primacy and its Geostrategic Imperatives by Zbigniew Brzezinski it is a time machine where you can see what the future holds. Yes there is a time machine, as these guys really like to flash goals to control this world and how to subdue other nations at their will.
Respect Russia. That is a lesson that has been taught time and time again from Napoleon to Saakashvili. NATO as a collection of Western states should have no business in interfering with the internal politics of states that have historically has close cultural and political ties with Russia. The whole point of the NATO alliance is mutual protection. Expanding into unstable areas just increases the likelihood of conflict. For example: Saakashvili due to his support in the US was confident he could bulldoze into two provinces, get away with war crimes and even attack a Russian peace keeping military base, even though Washington had warned that should he do this, he should expect no assistance. Now the US and Europe are too proud to admit that they (or "we" I should say, as I am British) backed a fool with more ego than sense (Saakashvili). The result is a flood of weapons into an unstable part of the world that in turn generates harsh rhetoric, reducing economic and business investment, reducing stability, increasing poverty which in turn becomes a breeding ground for extremist violence. Only Russia as the historic peace keeping power in the region has the ability to effectively improve stability in the region.
The recognition of Abkhazia and South Ossetia by Russia has led to very dangerous consequences for the Russian Federation itself, over the last twelve months there has been a dramatic upsurge in violence throughout the caucuses we have witnessed bomb blasts and assassination of political leaders in Dagestan, Ingushetia and Chechnya. Only days ago in Nazran we witnessed the worst terrorist attack in the region for 5 years. Radicals within these republics are enraged; they feel that if South Ossetia can be independent then their wish for independence should also be granted. And they now probably think if they push hard enough they might get what they want. I know that the situation in Chechnya has become so dangerous that Russian civilian workers attached to the military are now not allowed to work in the area because of almost daily sniper fire on the military compound. Russia’s recognition has stirred up a “hornets nest” and it appears to me that radicals in the 3 hostile republics are now acting in co-operation with one another to stretch Russian security forces. In a strange way the international community are helping Russia by not recognising these republics. If major powers like China, EU, and the USA did acknowledge Abkhazia/South Ossetia even in a limited way, this would only strengthen the resolve of radicals from Chechnya, Ingushetti, Dagestan and all hell could break loose.
Live far away in Canada and am glad to find here on this forum opinions that are like mine .Thx RT
what a week here...with all-media coverage of ««bad, aggressive Russia«« Uf...... finally it is over with this bullshit NATO -US propaganda. HOW can my own people swallow all this nonsense US blabla without asking themselves questions.....must be our harsch winters that leave their brains in a sort of ««permafrost«« To Marzipan6 : you are my favorite !
Unfortunately, the break up of the Soviet Union has brought a lot of trouble to the people of the former Soviet Republics. As expected the USA and NATO will do everything they can to come nearer to the Russian Federation and at the same time open up new routes for the big corporations. In other words the "Divide and Rule" politics is fully operational and rather dangerous for global peace.
Yes MEJanssen, I totally agree with you, but as you see there are some people on this forum who forget about the Ossetian people, they just keep spreading anti-Russian rethoric in any case, any event. They keep whining about "occupation of the Baltics" by the SU, while at the same time they totally approve the occupation of the Ossetians by Georgia, the occupation of the Palestines by the Israelis. They might refer to historically based arguements in their case but not use those same arguements on the Ossetians. On the one hand they recognize the province of Kosovo as independant, producing some conflicting arguements to justify their point of view, but then yet not for the Ossetians. Why do they do that one might say? Because of the simple reason : Ossetians are pro-Russian. Greetings from Brussels.
Western press presented two sides of the conflict? I disagree. That was my whole problem with the coverage - I was looking for anything I could read last year about the war, and all I found in the west was VERY biased stories about how evil the Russians were. There was nothing about Georgian ethnic cleansing and very few pictures about the devastation in South Ossetia. There were LOTS of pictures of Saakashvili ducking when planes flew overhead. The Georgian video taken by a soldier who was laughing while he shot holes in apartment blocks was on YouTube, but it was not aired on an American or English news site. Western news outlets presented only a partial picture of the war, and anybody who did not take the time to dig for information got a very warped idea of what happened.
Re the comments of johnx and R.John on the matter of S. Ossetia's isolation from the outside world, I'm afraid that it was largely the actions of the Russians which destroyed much of S. Ossetia's infrastructure. And, whatever one thinks of Georgia's political overtures to the region the fact remains that S. Ossetia faced a choice: join what passes for the "normal" world in the Caucasus by accepting autonomy within the Georgian state (by local standards a progressive, free and outward looking state), or go for separation from Georgia and pretend that that is independence: that option leaves you politically, economically and geographically isolated but hey, the nasty Georgians have gone (many of them murdered themselves). I do not for one moment claim that Georgia is innocent in this affair. Neither they nor Russia emerged from the recent conflict looking good, for very different reasons, but you should ask yourselves why, despite what many claim on here, Western reporting of the conflict presents two sides of a dirty ethnic conflict and the Russian side presents only one. I'm always suspicious of propagandists. They are generally up to no good, and this is certainly the case here.
Spot on Marzipan6! That is exactly what Russia should do, start behaving like a normal country. It is the easy way out to divert attention from domestic problems such as corruption and lack of free press to a supposedly hostile outside world around you. Trying to portrait a person who boasts of slaughtering people in the toilet as an admirable leader is as sickening as admiring G.W. Bushes intelligence would be.
NATO, etc. want to destroy Russia? What an absolutely amazing idea!
How do you destroy geographically the largest nation on earth, and one of the largest in terms of population? You can’t! What a futile waste of time and effort any attempt to that end would be. A far, far more sensible and logical goal would be to help Russia start seeing itself as a normal country amongst other normal countries, and to behave accordingly. This would involve Russia losing its view of itself as always being a special case – whether a special victim of all and sundry, or a special case because it can’t make up its mind whether it’s a country or an empire, or a special case because the rules of economic and political behaviour that apply to everyone else for some reason shouldn’t apply to it, or a special case because its view of history is the only correct one and everyone else has to toe the line, or else.
It is precisely this kind of change that the West and its institutions have been trying to help Russia to achieve. Their efforts have not been perfect and have not always been based on a realistic appraisal of Russia’s psychology and circumstances, and undoubtedly there would have been some rogue operators in the equation from time to time, too. But to impute the motive that someone or another wants to “destroy Russia” is nonsense.
The world’s efforts to assist Russia have thus far have not worked as well as hoped because Russia’s own goal has not been to progress from its past orientations, but rather, to justify those orientations and the past crimes it committed on their basis. Russia still insists on being treated as a special case, and still views itself as a place where the accepted norms of international behaviour shouldn’t quite apply. As long as that remains Russia’s view, no amount of external assistance will help it to change. Changing that can come only from within.
There is a real logistical problem getting supplies into the area, My wife has travelled the mountainous road from Vladikavkaz to south Ossetia and she told me its can be treacherous especially in winter, Also we have to remember that the Georgians destroyed much of the basic infrastructure gas pipes, water & sewerage, Electrical supplies, all these had to be addressed first as well as mine and munitions clearance, extensive work has been done unfortunately the press can’t photograph new pipe lines buried underground. The new homes, schools, hospitals will come but it takes time.
It was cut of from the outside world after Georgia’s failed invasion after the break up of the USSR when they abolished there autonomous representation in Georgia and cut of all trade and travel to the regions.
Explain exactly what was the point of the military blitz on South Ossetia other than ethnic cleansing. They did the same thing to the Serbs in Krajina in 95 called Operation Storm. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIh8_UJrOGc&feature=related
In fact it turned out MPRI were training Georgian forces in sabotage techniques.
Like the OSCE who abandoned there posts who abandoned there posts hours prior to the assault so they had fore knowledge of it just like they gave GPS coordinates to NATO and the KLA prior to the Kosovo war in 99.
Or the international media that acts as a propaganda outfit for western foreign policy like Reuters faking pictures during the conflict.
http://de-construct.net/e-zine/?p=2287 CNN liked RT’s reporting so much they repackaged there RT footage of South Ossetia and claimed it was Gori in Georgia.
@Wonderer
The whole region is in ruins plus the location makes it difficult to get supplies and construction material into the region from North Ossetia then there’s also unexploded cluster bombs and bobby trap devices in the area
It just proves that NATO/EU/US and the Middle Eastern proxies want to destroy Russia just like they did the Serbs in the former Yugoslavia.
The US and EU objective since 79 is to destroy Russia as a state and Africanise it creating vassal independent states loyal to the west and exploit Russia’s natural resources. The is best layed out in Brezinski’s 97 book The Grand Chessboard.
From there support of terrorism, separatism and organised crime, engineered economic collapse of the post Soviet economy of Russia and deliberate decline in population for massive ethnic demographic shifts to anti-Russian CIA/Soros coloured revolutions and know proxy wars.
This just a reply of what they did when they tried to install Communism in Russia Georgia being what happen was in 1904 and Soros taking up Schiff’s position.
Yugoslavia was the testing ground/model for what they have against Russia.
They want to Balkanise Russia starting with the Caucasus region
Russia would not have to enter and intervene had the US and UK not vetoed an emergency so it was obviously organised and pre-planned with US and NATO co-operation.
And the EU, US, Turkey, Pakistan and there Middle Eastern vassal states have been sponsoring separatism and terrorism since 91/92 in Russia as well as terrorist groups in Central Asia.
For Russia’s neighbours, the Georgian situation has simply re-enforced what they already know very well, namely, that Russian behaviour is dangerous, and that Russia constantly looks for a convergence of pretext and weakness in its neighbourhood for an opportunity to step in and re-build empire. Russia’s neighbours have had their conviction reconfirmed that their security depends on strong alliances, to avoid them being picked off one by one. Meanwhile the wider international community, who perhaps haven’t known Russia quite as well, have had the blinkers fall from their eyes.
Russia has gained two little slivers of dependant territories which it alone with Nicaragua recognize as independent nations. But it has lost a colossal amount of trust and good will from the world, and perhaps this accounts for the absolute avalanche of articles in RT and elsewhere in the Russian media that seeking to put a positive spin on the matter. All-in-all, not a foreign policy triumph.
Just yesterday BBC showed the interview from S.Ossetian man, He still lives in Tent, he was talking about how he spent the whole winter in tent. EU, UN and US gave all the help to Georgia, but No one other than Russia Helped Ossetia and Abkhazia.
people on NET are so blind that they can ONLY read what Americans want them to read, SHE can come here and write everything BAD about Russia, BUT blind lady don't bother to read what S.Ossetian person has to say (never mind what Russia has to say) At least listen to Abkhazian and Ossetian people, You will find the truth. You don't have to read Russan point of view, but for christ sake, look something other than American Media.
Russia did right thing and ONLY lesson learned is IF Clinton can go to save American, all the way to N.Korea, than Russia Definitely can save Russian Citizen on its own border. Learn the lesson well, Georgia, US.
I suppose we could say that the entire Caucasus is a "political piece in the board game" - one played by a long line of countries and now the USA. I have long had the idea that we are playing a giant game of "Risk", only in our game, real people die. "Ludicrous propaganda"? From whom? If you mean by what RT says, they back up their "propaganda" with video, eye witnesses, interviews, etc. The main things CNN and FOX had to offer last year were shrieks that "Russia invades AGAIN!" but hardly any details. I did actually look for evidence that Russia was at fault, but found very little. I was raised with the idea that Russia was at fault for everything, from massacre of innocents to earthquakes to cattle murrain. So, considering that Russia may not be at fault about something is a new thing for me. On the other hand, there is evidence that FOX suppressed witness stories and CNN mis-labeled their videos to make Russia look bad. Tell me again about "propaganda". I live in the country of Madison Avenue and the state of Hollywood, so I am used to wading through a lot of it.
I came in on this conflict very late, because I just didn't want to know if it was true that Russia was the aggressor. I was always skeptical, and when I finally got the guts to look it up, it turned out that I was right all along. I only wish I could've known then and done something. I want to do something on a larger scale than just disseminating information, now, but I don't want death threats.
05 September, 2009, 08:14
@Marzipan6
Through Islamic proxy, terrorism and organised crime, collapse of the Russian economy causing a massive demographic shift, intensive hate media campaign, subversion and financing all the political parties during the 90's were Jewish or half Jewish and the opposition parties in Russia spearheaded by NED a CIA front as well as EU, Soros and the British foreign office as well as front NGO's,
Just like they did to the Serbs during the 90's to the present and surprise, surprise it just happens to be the exact same people involved.
Basically what they did with Communism replacing socialism with Islam.
Read Zbignew Brezinskis book the Grand Chessboard that pretty much tell us how it will be done.
At least some people know the score.
http://www.voltairenet.org/article30038.html
FBI whistleblower Sidel Edmonds confirms US, Turkey, Saudi Arabia are training promoting and financing Islamic terrorism in Russia and Central Asia was good background info.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/7/15/551916/-Sibel-Edmonds-Case:-The-Central-Asia-Islamization-Cocktail:-Mosques,-Madrassas,-HeroinTerrorism
http://letsibeledmondsspeak.blogspot.com/2008/07/court-documents-shed-light-on-cia.html
The US soldiers won’t be to happy to find out that US and British SAS, Turkish military, etc trained Islamic militants there fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan for the past 3 decades fighting an utterly bogus international terrorist organisation.
http://thomasjoscelyn.blogspot.com/2006/07/demise-of-terror-master-role-of-his.html
http://www.serbianna.com/blogs/newspost/?p=1316
@sevodnya_net
Funny I thought it was Georgia firing GRAD rockets into the capital that destroyed South Ossetia.
28 August, 2009, 20:12
The only Georgia I care about, as an American, is the one Jimmy Carter came from.
28 August, 2009, 08:28
That the Geostrategic game of chess is on and the establishment of power in the so called Black whole region is fully alive and continuing. The Eurasian Balkans is fought over politically and by proxy as already proven.
The ethnic cauldron is represented by the nine are Kazakstan, Kyrgystan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Azerbaijan, Armenia, and Georgia. This would today include Abkhazia and South Ossetia but as neither of them is recognized by the cabal of European Union or the United States, Israel their name is carefully hidden in the one and single entity of Georgia.
Now the battle of political influence and control in this region is alive and sparkling, the war in South Ossetia backed by Israel, U.S and the European Union is only proof that these three players do have interests in the region and a interest they wont step away from easily. The control or at least a foothold in the region is important to keep the Federation of Russia busy with European proxy supremacy.
The so called democratic bridgehead consisting of France, Germany, Poland and Ukraine is already well established so The Eurasian Balkans is of course the last bastion of Geopolitical conquest the Europeans and Americans along with their allies such as Israel need to have to complete their sinister plan of global geostrategic imperatives put in stone.
For more information I suggest to all of you to get the book The Grand Chessboard American Primacy and its Geostrategic Imperatives by Zbigniew Brzezinski it is a time machine where you can see what the future holds. Yes there is a time machine, as these guys really like to flash goals to control this world and how to subdue other nations at their will.
What have I learned from this?
There is a lot more to come mark my words.
27 August, 2009, 17:08
Respect Russia. That is a lesson that has been taught time and time again from Napoleon to Saakashvili. NATO as a collection of Western states should have no business in interfering with the internal politics of states that have historically has close cultural and political ties with Russia. The whole point of the NATO alliance is mutual protection. Expanding into unstable areas just increases the likelihood of conflict. For example: Saakashvili due to his support in the US was confident he could bulldoze into two provinces, get away with war crimes and even attack a Russian peace keeping military base, even though Washington had warned that should he do this, he should expect no assistance. Now the US and Europe are too proud to admit that they (or "we" I should say, as I am British) backed a fool with more ego than sense (Saakashvili). The result is a flood of weapons into an unstable part of the world that in turn generates harsh rhetoric, reducing economic and business investment, reducing stability, increasing poverty which in turn becomes a breeding ground for extremist violence. Only Russia as the historic peace keeping power in the region has the ability to effectively improve stability in the region.
26 August, 2009, 18:20
Jewish media in America slammed Russia on the Georgia conflict. As always they preach a hate campaign against Germany and Russia.
19 August, 2009, 13:38
The recognition of Abkhazia and South Ossetia by Russia has led to very dangerous consequences for the Russian Federation itself, over the last twelve months there has been a dramatic upsurge in violence throughout the caucuses we have witnessed bomb blasts and assassination of political leaders in Dagestan, Ingushetia and Chechnya. Only days ago in Nazran we witnessed the worst terrorist attack in the region for 5 years. Radicals within these republics are enraged; they feel that if South Ossetia can be independent then their wish for independence should also be granted. And they now probably think if they push hard enough they might get what they want.
I know that the situation in Chechnya has become so dangerous that Russian civilian workers attached to the military are now not allowed to work in the area because of almost daily sniper fire on the military compound.
Russia’s recognition has stirred up a “hornets nest” and it appears to me that radicals in the 3 hostile republics are now acting in co-operation with one another to stretch Russian security forces.
In a strange way the international community are helping Russia by not recognising these republics. If major powers like China, EU, and the USA did acknowledge Abkhazia/South Ossetia even in a limited way, this would only strengthen the resolve of radicals from Chechnya, Ingushetti, Dagestan and all hell could break loose.
16 August, 2009, 18:02
Live far away in Canada and am glad to find here on this forum opinions that are like mine .Thx RT
what a week here...with all-media coverage of ««bad, aggressive Russia«« Uf...... finally it is over with this bullshit NATO -US propaganda.
HOW can my own people swallow all this nonsense US blabla without asking themselves questions.....must be our harsch winters that leave their brains in a sort of ««permafrost««
To Marzipan6 : you are my favorite !
16 August, 2009, 00:08
Unfortunately, the break up of the Soviet Union has brought a lot of trouble to the people of the former Soviet Republics. As expected the USA and NATO will do everything they can to come nearer to the Russian Federation and at the same time open up new routes for the big corporations. In other words the "Divide and Rule" politics is fully operational and rather dangerous for global peace.
12 August, 2009, 22:23
Yes MEJanssen, I totally agree with you, but as you see there are some people on this forum who forget about the Ossetian people, they just keep spreading anti-Russian rethoric in any case, any event. They keep whining about "occupation of the Baltics" by the SU, while at the same time they totally approve the occupation of the Ossetians by Georgia, the occupation of the Palestines by the Israelis. They might refer to historically based arguements in their case but not use those same arguements on the Ossetians. On the one hand they recognize the province of Kosovo as independant, producing some conflicting arguements to justify their point of view, but then yet not for the Ossetians. Why do they do that one might say? Because of the simple reason : Ossetians are pro-Russian.
Greetings from Brussels.
12 August, 2009, 02:17
Western press presented two sides of the conflict? I disagree. That was my whole problem with the coverage - I was looking for anything I could read last year about the war, and all I found in the west was VERY biased stories about how evil the Russians were. There was nothing about Georgian ethnic cleansing and very few pictures about the devastation in South Ossetia. There were LOTS of pictures of Saakashvili ducking when planes flew overhead. The Georgian video taken by a soldier who was laughing while he shot holes in apartment blocks was on YouTube, but it was not aired on an American or English news site. Western news outlets presented only a partial picture of the war, and anybody who did not take the time to dig for information got a very warped idea of what happened.
11 August, 2009, 20:55
Re the comments of johnx and R.John on the matter of S. Ossetia's isolation from the outside world, I'm afraid that it was largely the actions of the Russians which destroyed much of S. Ossetia's infrastructure. And, whatever one thinks of Georgia's political overtures to the region the fact remains that S. Ossetia faced a choice: join what passes for the "normal" world in the Caucasus by accepting autonomy within the Georgian state (by local standards a progressive, free and outward looking state), or go for separation from Georgia and pretend that that is independence: that option leaves you politically, economically and geographically isolated but hey, the nasty Georgians have gone (many of them murdered themselves).
I do not for one moment claim that Georgia is innocent in this affair. Neither they nor Russia emerged from the recent conflict looking good, for very different reasons, but you should ask yourselves why, despite what many claim on here, Western reporting of the conflict presents two sides of a dirty ethnic conflict and the Russian side presents only one. I'm always suspicious of propagandists. They are generally up to no good, and this is certainly the case here.
11 August, 2009, 14:38
Spot on Marzipan6! That is exactly what Russia should do, start behaving like a normal country. It is the easy way out to divert attention from domestic problems such as corruption and lack of free press to a supposedly hostile outside world around you. Trying to portrait a person who boasts of slaughtering people in the toilet as an admirable leader is as sickening as admiring G.W. Bushes intelligence would be.
11 August, 2009, 11:24
NATO, etc. want to destroy Russia? What an absolutely amazing idea!
How do you destroy geographically the largest nation on earth, and one of the largest in terms of population? You can’t! What a futile waste of time and effort any attempt to that end would be. A far, far more sensible and logical goal would be to help Russia start seeing itself as a normal country amongst other normal countries, and to behave accordingly. This would involve Russia losing its view of itself as always being a special case – whether a special victim of all and sundry, or a special case because it can’t make up its mind whether it’s a country or an empire, or a special case because the rules of economic and political behaviour that apply to everyone else for some reason shouldn’t apply to it, or a special case because its view of history is the only correct one and everyone else has to toe the line, or else.
It is precisely this kind of change that the West and its institutions have been trying to help Russia to achieve. Their efforts have not been perfect and have not always been based on a realistic appraisal of Russia’s psychology and circumstances, and undoubtedly there would have been some rogue operators in the equation from time to time, too. But to impute the motive that someone or another wants to “destroy Russia” is nonsense.
The world’s efforts to assist Russia have thus far have not worked as well as hoped because Russia’s own goal has not been to progress from its past orientations, but rather, to justify those orientations and the past crimes it committed on their basis. Russia still insists on being treated as a special case, and still views itself as a place where the accepted norms of international behaviour shouldn’t quite apply. As long as that remains Russia’s view, no amount of external assistance will help it to change. Changing that can come only from within.
10 August, 2009, 09:14
There is a real logistical problem getting supplies into the area, My wife has travelled the mountainous road from Vladikavkaz to south Ossetia and she told me its can be treacherous especially in winter, Also we have to remember that the Georgians destroyed much of the basic infrastructure gas pipes, water & sewerage, Electrical supplies, all these had to be addressed first as well as mine and munitions clearance, extensive work has been done unfortunately the press can’t photograph new pipe lines buried underground. The new homes, schools, hospitals will come but it takes time.
09 August, 2009, 21:38
@sevodnya_net
It was cut of from the outside world after Georgia’s failed invasion after the break up of the USSR when they abolished there autonomous representation in Georgia and cut of all trade and travel to the regions.
Explain exactly what was the point of the military blitz on South Ossetia other than ethnic cleansing.
They did the same thing to the Serbs in Krajina in 95 called Operation Storm.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIh8_UJrOGc&feature=related
In fact it turned out MPRI were training Georgian forces in sabotage techniques.
Like the OSCE who abandoned there posts who abandoned there posts hours prior to the assault so they had fore knowledge of it just like they gave GPS coordinates to NATO and the KLA prior to the Kosovo war in 99.
Or the international media that acts as a propaganda outfit for western foreign policy like Reuters faking pictures during the conflict.
http://de-construct.net/e-zine/?p=2287
CNN liked RT’s reporting so much they repackaged there RT footage of South Ossetia and claimed it was Gori in Georgia.
@Wonderer
The whole region is in ruins plus the location makes it difficult to get supplies and construction material into the region from North Ossetia then there’s also unexploded cluster bombs and bobby trap devices in the area
09 August, 2009, 21:36
@Marzipan6
It just proves that NATO/EU/US and the Middle Eastern proxies want to destroy Russia just like they did the Serbs in the former Yugoslavia.
The US and EU objective since 79 is to destroy Russia as a state and Africanise it creating vassal independent states loyal to the west and exploit Russia’s natural resources. The is best layed out in Brezinski’s 97 book The Grand Chessboard.
From there support of terrorism, separatism and organised crime, engineered economic collapse of the post Soviet economy of Russia and deliberate decline in population for massive ethnic demographic shifts to anti-Russian CIA/Soros coloured revolutions and know proxy wars.
This just a reply of what they did when they tried to install Communism in Russia Georgia being what happen was in 1904 and Soros taking up Schiff’s position.
Yugoslavia was the testing ground/model for what they have against Russia.
They want to Balkanise Russia starting with the Caucasus region
Russia would not have to enter and intervene had the US and UK not vetoed an emergency so it was obviously organised and pre-planned with US and NATO co-operation.
And the EU, US, Turkey, Pakistan and there Middle Eastern vassal states have been sponsoring separatism and terrorism since 91/92 in Russia as well as terrorist groups in Central Asia.
09 August, 2009, 00:38
For Russia’s neighbours, the Georgian situation has simply re-enforced what they already know very well, namely, that Russian behaviour is dangerous, and that Russia constantly looks for a convergence of pretext and weakness in its neighbourhood for an opportunity to step in and re-build empire. Russia’s neighbours have had their conviction reconfirmed that their security depends on strong alliances, to avoid them being picked off one by one. Meanwhile the wider international community, who perhaps haven’t known Russia quite as well, have had the blinkers fall from their eyes.
Russia has gained two little slivers of dependant territories which it alone with Nicaragua recognize as independent nations. But it has lost a colossal amount of trust and good will from the world, and perhaps this accounts for the absolute avalanche of articles in RT and elsewhere in the Russian media that seeking to put a positive spin on the matter. All-in-all, not a foreign policy triumph.
08 August, 2009, 21:58
Just yesterday BBC showed the interview from S.Ossetian man, He still lives in Tent, he was talking about how he spent the whole winter in tent. EU, UN and US gave all the help to Georgia, but No one other than Russia Helped Ossetia and Abkhazia.
people on NET are so blind that they can ONLY read what Americans want them to read, SHE can come here and write everything BAD about Russia, BUT blind lady don't bother to read what S.Ossetian person has to say (never mind what Russia has to say) At least listen to Abkhazian and Ossetian people, You will find the truth. You don't have to read Russan point of view, but for christ sake, look something other than American Media.
Russia did right thing and ONLY lesson learned is IF Clinton can go to save American, all the way to N.Korea, than Russia Definitely can save Russian Citizen on its own border. Learn the lesson well, Georgia, US.
08 August, 2009, 15:50
I suppose we could say that the entire Caucasus is a "political piece in the board game" - one played by a long line of countries and now the USA. I have long had the idea that we are playing a giant game of "Risk", only in our game, real people die. "Ludicrous propaganda"? From whom? If you mean by what RT says, they back up their "propaganda" with video, eye witnesses, interviews, etc. The main things CNN and FOX had to offer last year were shrieks that "Russia invades AGAIN!" but hardly any details. I did actually look for evidence that Russia was at fault, but found very little. I was raised with the idea that Russia was at fault for everything, from massacre of innocents to earthquakes to cattle murrain. So, considering that Russia may not be at fault about something is a new thing for me. On the other hand, there is evidence that FOX suppressed witness stories and CNN mis-labeled their videos to make Russia look bad. Tell me again about "propaganda". I live in the country of Madison Avenue and the state of Hollywood, so I am used to wading through a lot of it.
08 August, 2009, 10:05
I came in on this conflict very late, because I just didn't want to know if it was true that Russia was the aggressor. I was always skeptical, and when I finally got the guts to look it up, it turned out that I was right all along. I only wish I could've known then and done something. I want to do something on a larger scale than just disseminating information, now, but I don't want death threats.
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